wtogami ([info]wtogami) wrote,
@ 2006-11-03 04:28:00
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Fedora Will Never Compromise
(Disclaimer: These are my personal feelings and opinions.)

The Primary Goal of the Fedora Project:
Rapid Progress of Free & Open Source Software.

Red Hat engineering invests millions every year in FOSS development. These developers contribute in a great many ways to stimulate growth in the FOSS ecosystem and the community itself. Red Hat makes this investment for three key reasons:

  • It makes business sense: A healthy relationship with community builds quality products faster, and with lower expense. It is indeed possible to make money and not compromise on values.
  • Perhaps the technology leaders who made many of these key FOSS improvements are best able to support business customers.
  • Many of the people at Red Hat believe in the ethical values of FOSS and the benefit that it brings to society.
As long as I work on the Fedora Project, Fedora will never compromise on the essential liberties of FOSS nor will it betray the community. But the price of liberty is not free, nor is it comfortable. And unfortunately, some "leaders" of our community are willing to compromise liberty for short-term convenience. I am disgusted by people like this, and by Novell's betrayal of the community today.

Novell has effectively traded Long-Term Liberty for Short-Term Safety.

Red Hat supports causes that matter like providing the original seed money for Creative Commons. Or being a key partner in the anti-software patent movement during the miraculous last-minute turnaround at the European Parliament last year. I am proud to be part of an organization that demonstrates such moral and ethical commitment.

But ultimately, Red Hat cannot change the world alone. That is why the Fedora Project exists. We want to enable the community to work together to improve FOSS at a rapid pace, in partnership with the large and consistent contributions from our engineers. We strongly believe that this is the most effective way for the entire FOSS movement to advance. Yes, we made some big mistakes in our community relationship earlier, but we are learning, and continue to improve at an ever accelerating pace.

For these reasons that I urge the FOSS community to support the Fedora Project through volunteer contributions of time and effort. Or if you lack time to contribute, please consider monetary donations toward any of the shared causes that we are fighting for.

Contribute to Fedora
The Fedora Project needs your contributions in many ways. If you know how to make RPM packages, you can become a maintainer in Fedora Extras where you can contribute your favorite FOSS software into the central repository for all to benefit. We have many opportunities for even non-developers to get involved. We need help with things like Documentation, Artwork, or promoting Fedora in the Ambassadors team. Even simply using Fedora, responsibly reporting bugs in Bugzilla, and helping each other helps the entire community.

Donations
The Fedora Project does not need your money[1], but I hope that you would consider donating to one of the major charities that fight for your liberty. The Electronic Frontier Foundation fights for technology and online liberties. Creative Commons protects the future of culture in our society.[2] And of course, none of us would be here defending FOSS if it were not for the Free Software Foundation.

Warren Togami
Founder, Fedora Project
Software Engineer,
Red Hat, Inc.

[1] Although it would be cool if you wore this super cool T-shirt. =)
[2] If you have not yet done so, please watch the Narrated Slide-Show of Lawrence Lessig's 2002 talk "Free Culture" where he explains the threat of the media industry poses to the technology industry and to the future of culture in society itself. If you are intrigued by his ideas, I also highly recommend his book.




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Thanks Mr. Togami
(Anonymous)
2006-11-03 11:38 pm UTC (link)
Thank you for your committment to FOSS.

As a long-time SuSE user I'm very disappointed. Novell has betrayed all SuSE users. I obliterated my installed retail SuSE 10.1 installations this morning and am in the process of installing Debian on my desktops and FC6 on my laptop.

I spent a considerable amount of time bug-hunting SuSE. (very frustrating given recent developements) But now I will redirect those efforts to Debian and Fedora.

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Re: Thanks Mr. Togami
[info]evil_oranges
2006-11-04 03:07 am UTC (link)
open SuSE, it pwns much face. anyways, if you are dissapointed in Novell, then you have forgotten that it was and is a dealer in proprietary software. SuSE was just a way to generate buzz for them, they didnt care that much, and they dont care that much. this is just free publicity for them. will it turn off a lot of potential users? yes, but all those users are OSS geeks who wouldnt really be paying anyways. the real market is normal people, people like my parents, people like my teachers, people like my potential boss. not techies, regular technophobe people who dont have the slightest on the differences between OSes. Novell has succeded at what they set out to do, stab us all in the back. i saw it coming, thats why i have NEVER installed a version of SuSE maintained by Novell!

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[info]evil_oranges
2008-07-17 01:12 am UTC (link)
why are you picking up a thread after TWO FUCKING YEARS?

not to mention the grammar is so bad that i cant even tell if you're trying to be flamebait or just ignorant.

if a proprietary software company sues an open source development company/group, the only difference between that and suing another proprietary software company is that even if they win, the code will live on. if the proprietary software company has a legal right to sue over the issue, then that's life. i can safely say that this isn't walgreens.

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Re: ......
[info]wtogami
2008-07-22 01:13 am UTC (link)
The above comment is a clever new type of LiveJournal spam. If you click on the user's blog, you'll see it is full of a bunch of garbage then links to spam sites. It is trying to get higher search engine rankings for whatever they link to.

I'm deleting this guy's post.

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Re: ......
[info]evil_oranges
2008-07-22 01:28 am UTC (link)
excellent. i've not kept up with LJ for about.... a long time, and your reassurance that this isnt a real human being restores a little of my confidence in the species. only a little though.

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Thank You
(Anonymous)
2006-11-04 01:05 am UTC (link)
Warren,
Thank you though for all of your hard work and leadership in the Fedora Community. I use Fedora Core exclusively and have since FC3. I have learned to understand and identify with the FOSS philosophy through the Fedora Community. Armed with that, I share Fedora and FOSS with everyone I meet. The biggest part of that being choice. I can only see FOSS and Red Hat growing. MS getting into Open Source is a clear indicator of its strength in the marketplace.
Mahalo,
Edward

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Mutualism of FOSS and Commercial
[info]adhidarma hadiwinoto [or.id]
2006-11-07 07:34 pm UTC (link)
What is interesting in Fedora is I can see great mutualism of Free Open Source Software and Commercial

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What about mono?
[info]vhs_jon
2006-11-08 09:07 am UTC (link)
How does Red Hat/Fedora Core feel about mono and the potential patent problems with it? Any clarification? I really like the Red Hat/Fedora Core distro, but I feel a bit uneasy about mono...

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Re: What about mono?
(Anonymous)
2006-11-08 07:53 pm UTC (link)
Same here. But notice that Red Hat does *not* include Mono as part of RHEL. For some reason the Fedora team decided it would be a good idea to include Mono in FC5 and FC6. There was some talk (http://gregdek.livejournal.com/4008.html) about Mono being protected in Fedora by a patent pool owned by something called the Open Invention Network, but if you look at the small list (http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/pat_owned.php) of patents they own, you'll see that none of those "acquired" patents include Microsoft's *numerous* .NET patents.

My gut feeling is that some of the Fedora devs were anxious to put Mono in FC5 and looked for any excuse (even the flimsy one about the OIN patent pool) to do so. It seems that Red Hat tried to discourage the Fedora team (http://news.com.com/2061-10795_3-6025387.html) from doing this, but apparently they didn't listen to that wise advice. It may now come back to bite Fedora. The easy (and best) solution is to just drop Mono from Fedora. Why include that patent-encumbered clone of MS "technology" in the first place?

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Re: What about mono?
[info]vhs_jon
2006-11-08 08:11 pm UTC (link)
But won't it be cumbersome to remove mono now that it's an official dependency of Gnome?

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Re: What about mono?
(Anonymous)
2006-11-09 03:52 am UTC (link)
To the Fedora team, I think "cumbersome to remove" will be preferable to "getting your customers sued, and sued yourself". Besides, how cumbersome would it really be? The only Mono apps I can see included with FC6 are Tomboy, Beagle, and F-Spot. Even if there are a few more, it shouldn't be too hard to have a functional GNOME without those apps.

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(Anonymous)
2006-12-01 10:51 pm UTC (link)

congrats for continuous flows of RPMs.
FC6 is really great work of hands.

ps.
can the community hopefully be granted,say 0.05 percent of $800M for free delivery and shipment of FC CDs to educational institutions and RH/FC plug lists? :)

vertito at gmail dot com

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fedora already compromised
(Anonymous)
2006-12-02 09:17 am UTC (link)
when it switched from id'ing ripped cd's with the great FreeDB database, to the proprietary (free as in beer, but non-free-as-in-speech due to the CC non-commercial license) MusicBrainz imitation.

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Re: fedora already compromised
[info]wtogami
2006-12-03 11:23 pm UTC (link)
What are you talking about?

Sounds like a decision made by an individual upstream application and not by Fedora itself.

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